__/ [ Hadron Quark ] on Saturday 09 September 2006 13:20 \__
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> __/ [ Gubo Dangle ] on Saturday 09 September 2006 12:14 \__
>>
>>> It happens that Roy Schestowitz formulated :
>>>> The Linux killer app: KDE's Konqueror
>>>>
>>>> ,----[ Snippet ]
>>>>> One of the unique features of Konqueror that really is amazing is
>>>>> it's ability to do split screen browsing. Right click on the status bar
>>>>> on the bottom of the screen and you get a menu allowing you to split
>>>>> the screen either horizontally or vertically.
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't just a "gee whiz" feature. It's actually very useful. Take
>>>>> shopping on line, for instance. My wife is very jealous of this
>>>>> feature. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Take a look at the following screen shot, which shows me looking at
>>>>> two different tents and comparing their specs side by side.
>>>
>>> So, it'll do the same (nearly) as having two open webpages in any
>>> webbrowser with the windows tiled vertically.
>>>
>>> - and that's a Killer App?
>>
>> No, because two separate windows are fragmented and they hog more
>> resources.
>
> No they dont. Well they do : but minimally. Almost certainly the two
> frames you are looking at are window devices in their own right. And
> besides, who gives a shit? A window handle or tow here or there doesnt
> make any odds on a desktop.
It's a pane versus-window scenario. I have programmed for Linux before and I
happen to know the difference, in terms os strain of the system, as well as
clutter (e.g. taskbar). There is a reason why many tab managers give the
option to open all windows as tabs, overriding any request to open pages in
new windows.
>> Have you used text editors that split vertically and horizontally, e.g.
>> while editing the exact same file? I'm not sure you fully comprehend the
>> value of integrated views, which is related to (yet not the same as)
>> the
>
> LOL. The arrogance. You're not sure he comprehends the idea of
> integrated views???? FFS : he's off his trolley again. Mark, get Roy his
> meds - he thinks people cant comprehend multiple window displays
> now. What a complex paradigm shift. Do explain it to us Roy.
In your favourite editor, can you edit line 200 and line 1 without scrolling?
What if you wish to copy and paste from/to within the same file and do so
simultaneously? Are you confident as a programmer? Your reply is filled with
arrogance, so who are you to say that mine was conceited? Merely anything
you say comes from a high horse of cardboard. This pattern was pointed out
by others in the past.
>> tab. Personally, I would prefer to use a browser with a more 'liquid'
>> layout, as opposed to rigid. Dealing with pages simultaneously should be
>> similar to management of a desktop (not a primitive Windows desktop, but
>> something more like an augmented, feature-rich KDE desktop). There's still
>> a struggle between a more familar and trditional paradism and one which
>> requires some training, but entails improvements. BumpTop is not a
>> good
>
> Did anyone understand that burble? A job in marketing awaits Roy.
There are some typos there, e.g. "traditional paradigm", but I think you
/choose/ not to understand. Feel free to return to the childish artwork of
Windows XP with a file manager that says zilch about objects and whose
function is an artists' equivalent of a box of crayons.
>> example (I think it's a poor implementation), but it's noteworthy, I
>> think.
>>
>> http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.html
>>
>> I think it's a shame that few people have grasped the advanced control
>> the
>
> Few people have grasped? Is he on ego pills again?!?!?! I'm gobsmacked
> at Roys humongous intellect : let us bow down and worship at his altar.
>
>> KDE makes available for file management and user interaction. It requires
>> very few clicks, delivers more information than most, and fascilitates
>> tasks
>
> Few clicks? Example : and dont tell me its quicker to do single click
> than double : in terms of "real time" doing "real work" its not.
Use the keyboard for navigation. With more keys available, you can jump the
files of interest alpha-numerically and have refined scrolling, e.g. home,
end, pgdn, pgup. Too many people still rely on context menus, toolbars and
mouse motion. These are fine at the start, but every tool should offer
controls for gradually-improving productivity. Many Windows users just don't
want to learn better ways because the tool before them _discourages this_.
Windows doesn't not facilitate improvement and exploration, but this
perfectly aligns with the agenda of its masters -- make people stupid and
they will continue to buy your rubbish, as a blind course of choice.
>> that could otherwise be impossible or very cumbersome.
>
> What tasks?
Hypothetical example: You are logged into Windows XP. You need to open 10
files over FTP, adding the word "bar" and placing them back on the FTP
server. You also need to edit only the files whose content begins with the
word "foo". There is a total of 100 files. With the Konqueror GUI alone (no
CLI), this could take just a minute.
Best wishes,
Roy
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