____/ Kier on Monday 24 December 2007 15:37 : \____
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:39:04 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Kier on Monday 24 December 2007 09:44 : \____
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:44:36 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> ____/ Kier on Sunday 23 December 2007 22:03 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:14:13 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ____/ Kier on Sunday 23 December 2007 14:43 : \____
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:41:18 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ____/ Kier on Sunday 23 December 2007 00:21 : \____
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:07:35 +0000, [H]omer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Look what has _just entered_ the BBC RSS feeds, just in time for
>>>>>>>>>>> the holidays.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Video: Under the bonnet of Vista
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6312833.stm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That comes a week after publishing Gates' drivel about a
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft-funded study.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's not even news any more. The MSBBC has officially become just
>>>>>>>>>> another division of Microsoft.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it hasn't. You should step back and take off the tinfoil hat,
>>>>>>>>> man.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's equally bad in France (which Microsoft 'bought'). I'll publish
>>>>>>>> something within a few days).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said take *off* the tinfoil hat, not add another layer :-) Seriously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlTjhGxr7Y
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, it's easy to just live like Alice in Wonderland. It makes
>>>>>> life happier.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to take a break. The Beeb may have its faults, but 'MSBBC' it is
>>>>> not.
>>>>
>>>> They are not /combined/. Of course not. That's just an exaggeration.
>>>>
>>>> However, it remains very clear that there is influence that is not to be
>>>> tolerated in a channel (or entire corporation) that strives to inform, not
>>>> advertise in disguise.
>>>
>>> If they talked about Linux, would that be advertising?
>>
>> There are (at least) two things to consider here. Let's just use two
>> examples:
>>
>> 1. BBC as an agent for a monopoly - the BBC promotes the use of Windows with
>> iPlayer (and possibly with Silverlight to come).
>
> No, it's not an 'agent'. And the Linux version of the iPlayer is just
> about ready now
*sigh* No, it's not. That's just an alternative viewer. The BBC said something
about the download service /MAYBE/ becoming available for Mac and /MAYBE/ for
Linux as well next year. They have still burned a lot of money on a shoddy
proprietary stack they do not own or control. They /still/ treat Mac and Linux
like second-class citizen and with proprietary software it's unlikely to reach
others who use OpenSolaris and BSD for example.
The BBC screwed up _VERY BADLY_. Its executives returned a little favour to
their friends and/or old employer (or made a favour expecting something in
return). That's how things are run. It's corrupt. It needs to be pointed out.
Where was planning which weighed open alternative (tender/bid)? Was it done
transparently (if done at all)? Why was Adobe Flash not considered in the
first place, but only after public backlash in response to a fiasco?
>> 2. The BBC is influenced by a collaboration that involves inter-personal
>> relationship. As employee of one company liaise with those of another, it's
>> expected that there will be bias and selective awareness. The BBC rarely
>
> What is this supposed to mean, Roy? *Everyone* has biases, including you
> and I.
The press has biased. It has sponsors. The BBC is tax-funded. It must combat
biases.
>> coveres GNU/Linux, _despite_ the fact that it dominates supercomputers,
>> devices and it is also the fastest-growing platform in servers, mainframes,
>
> Most average viewers aren't that interested in mainframes, though, are
> they? They want to hear about the software they're likely to be using. And
> whether we like that or not, it's more likely to be Vista than Linux.
What does the BBC tell about Vista? What do people do about Vista? The BBC
advertises it. People throw it out the window. The BBC must inform. It needs
to tell people why Vista is better off avoided at this stage.
>> and even desktops (if three independent surveys from this year are anything
>> to judge by).
>
> I'd like to see more Linux coverage on the Beeb, it's true. It does get
> mentioned from time to time, usually favourably. As time passes, it should
> be more coverage, as it's beginning to really enter the mainstream now.
I agree, Kier. Merry Christmas. Please don't perceive this 'vendetta' as
something that's directed at yourself. These discussions hopefully help
resolve the issues that exist.
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~~ Best of wishes
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