____/ Peter Köhlmann on Wednesday 23 January 2008 11:41 : \____
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Peter Köhlmann on Wednesday 23 January 2008 09:38 : \____
>>
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> ____/ Peter Köhlmann on Wednesday 23 January 2008 08:57 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ____/ jim on Wednesday 23 January 2008 04:29 : \____
>>>>>>
>>>>> < snip >
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is OPENSuse (possibly poisoned) under the same Microsoft licensing
>>>>>>> agreement that Microsoft reached with Novell concerning SUSE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a more accurate assessment of this in Groklaw (search for
>>>>>> "pledge to opensuse developers"), but the impression that I get is
>>>>>> that Microsoft puts of them sheep in the same pen. OpenSUSE is merely
>>>>>> helping Novell build SLES and SLED, which are just Microsoft cash
>>>>>> cows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Roy, they are *not* MS cash cows.
>>>>> Novell has a net profit from that agreement with MS
>>>>>
>>>>> You might disagree with their stance, but fact is that companies
>>>>> thinking of using linux tend to think rather different about that
>>>>> matter. They prefer dealing with Novell precisely because they
>>>>> interoperate with MS
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I won't argue with you on this subject, but I *do* hope that you
>>>> are
>>>> aware of the fact that for each sale of SLED and SLES Microsoft *does*
>>>> get paid. The deal with Novell made it explicit that the payment is for
>>>> software patents, which are illegal in Germany.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, when will you start to be correct about that Novell/MS deal?
>>>
>>> Because that dribble above certainly is *not*
>>
>> Well, then I'm glad I raised it because it is true. Which part of it do
>> you believe to be incorrect?
>>
>
> Which part do you believe to be correct? So far the only factual statement
> was that "software patents are illegal in Germany"
>
> The rest is bullshit
Novell and Microsoft has agreed that Microsoft will pay Novell $300+ million
for 'protection'. In return, based on the volume of Novell sales, Microsoft
will receive 'protection' money from Novell. Read the 2007 report of Novell.
You will see it pretty clearly. Also see the quotes here:
More on the OSP
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| Microsoft’s recent history on patents (particularly since the Novell deal in
| November 06) has a particularly public persona:
|
| Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith and licensing chief Horacio
| Gutierrez sat down with Fortune recently to map out their strategy for
| getting FOSS users to pay royalties. - Fortune
|
| “Novell pays us some money for the right to tell customers that anybody
| who uses SuSE Linux is appropriately covered,” Ballmer said...
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http://brendanscott.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/more-on-the-osp/
More quotes there. It's not a secret, it's a reality. Ignoring it won't make it
magically go away.
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