Jesper Lund Stocholm <jls2008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> news:07uha5-a7a.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
>> Jesper Lund Stocholm <jls2008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>> Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>
>>> Well, I cannot answer this. Do note that the cameras are present "on
>>> the floor" where the final debate is taken place in e.g. UN. There is
>>> no camera in the rooms adjecent to the "floor" where the real
>>> negociations take place. In the BRM, the floor was where stuff was
>>> negociated.
>>
>> Quite, so no viable reason for this ban, then, other than people
>> trying to hide themselves.
>
> Heah, well - I am not one of those. I was just trying to provide som
> reasoning for people not wanting their pictures taken.
Why? The issue remains suspicious to me. If /individuals/ don't want
their picture taking, that's fine, but where in the rules does the
chairman have the right to make such a determination? It seems to me
that he's massively overstepped his remit.
>
>> I'm an "old standards person" and we used to take photos, there was
>> never a problem, and we were not embarrassed about what we were doing.
>> No, I believe that some consciences are stirring.
>
> Do note that I myself have absolutely no problem with cameras being in
> the room if they should have chosen so ... I think I have done what I can
> to make it impossible to hide the fact that I was at the BRM.
see my remark above.
>
>:o)
>
>>> Yes - but a camera in the room does squat to change this ... there
>>> will always be corridor-talk - regardless of a camera in the room.
>>>
>> No, but the camera *can* show who was doing it, because it shows who
>> was present, even if the meeting notes make no particular reference to
>> any part they took.
>
> But there is already a list of delegates to show who was there. Unless
> you want cameras in the hallways as well, it won't do you any good.
A list of delegates is a dry, non-visual thing, newspapers and the press
are not overly interested in such things. Pictures, however, make it
real, make the people real. Not having pictures, however, makes it much
easier for people to hide. The chairman should not be helping this.
>
>> I was a rapporteur and delegate for many years, I know how this stuff
>> works.
>
> OK
>
> Also: I mentioned our conversation to the HoD of Denmark at the meeting
> and she said that not having cameras in the room is more or less standard
> ISO procedure ... it is nothing specific to the BRM. There were also no
> cameras in the room at the JTC1/SC34-plenary I attended in Kyoto.
>
There is no such thing as "more or less procedure". There is no rule
which I'm aware of which allows a chairman to require no use of cameras.
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