Tim Smith <reply_in_group@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> In article <86y6rl9ws5.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > So Microsoft should give a royalty free patent grant to patents they
>> > don't have?
>> So if they don't have patents in C#/CLI, why would they need to file a
>> patent grant with ECMA? Why not file a disclaimer that they *don't* hold
>> any patents?
> They didn't file a patent grant with ECMA.
> Standards bodies in general require that people submitting proposals for
> standards (or changes to standards) make any necessary patents available
> on certain terms (usually "reasonable and non-discriminatory license").
> Submitters have to include a declaration that they will do so--and they
> do this regardless of whether or not they actually have any patents
> covering the submission.
Irrelevant. Miguel, Erik, and you keep insisting that Microsoft is
licensing any CLI and C# patents RAND and royalty-free.
So produce that license, or shut the fuck up. I've had it with your
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.