Re: [News] Sun CEO: OpenOffice.org Reaches 2,000,000-3,000,000 New Users PER WEEK

[JEDIDIAH <jedi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 2009-03-09, Hadron <hadronquark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> JEDIDIAH <jedi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
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>> On 2009-03-09, Ezekiel <there@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>> On 2009-03-08, Ezekiel <there@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> [deletia]
>>> Except that nobody is talking about paying a $1 for every little service or 
>>> library. We're talking about $1 for a full blown RDBMS system not some 
>>> little utility or library.
>>
>>     It rather depends on where you're looking from.
>
>
> More word games. What part of "$1 for a full blown RDBMS system"
> confuses you?

...the part where mysql or postgres was held up as the "full blown RDBMS".

Plus there's the issue of this idea being limited entirely to a single
example. If you push this idea for one component of hundreds then you've
quickly set yourself on a nice slippery slope.

Payware X anyone?
Howabout KDE?
Howabout GL?

>
>>
>>     That's kind of the point. Also, mysql is not a "full blown RDBMS system".
>> For those of us that do serious work in this area, it's more like an embedded
>> db or some sort of transaction accelerator.
>
> What total nonsense. MySQL is very competent for most small to mid
> businesses for the price.

    No it isn't. At best it is functional as a "development" database
where things like uptime and data integrity aren't really important.
It also doesn't scale very well and you will quickly find yourself in
a position of needing to migrate to a more robust product.

    The high price of other products does more than just buy boats and
jets.

>
>>
>>      Although we've already been down this path before (lets charge the user
>> for basic user facilities that come gratis with other OSen) and it didn't 
>> work out very well.
>>
>>      Nevermind "what sort of cheapskates the Linux users are", you first
>> have to start off with realizing "what sort of cheapskates Windows users
>> are" and realize that you probably can't push the situation farther than
>> that. You would like to twist the situation so that it appears that the
>> Linux user appear excessively "cheap" but they aren't really any different
>> than anyone else in this repect.
>>
>>      Besides, mysql runs on Windows too.
>
> So what?
>
>>
>>      Want to "pass around the plate"? Then you don't have to restrict
>> yourself to Linux users. Although the whole idea sounds suspicously
>> like shareware for which Windows users typically never pay their fair
>> share.
>
> No one said they would or should so restrict.

    If you want to make Linux apps "shareware" then you can start by
trying it across the board and see who bites. For something that doesn't
represent 30 year old technology, that's kind of put together half-assed
to begin with, and doesn't have an immediate freebie rival, it might 
actually work out pretty well.

    Try selling us something new and interesting.

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