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> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
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>> ____/ Mark Kent on Friday 15 Jan 2010 11:28 : \____
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>>>>> The problem here is that those folk in HMG making these decisions have
>>>>> so little technical knowledge that they are readily bamboozled by
>>>>> salespeople from Microsoft and elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, here, the money involved helps to maintain the corruption.
>>>>
>>>> It turns out now that Microsoft is involved here (and BECTA of course).
>>>>
>>>
>>> BECTA are completely corrupt and should be shut-down. Why on earth are
>>> they so keen to push old technology onto kids in schools? Kids should
>>> be taught about the technology future; Windows would be suitable for a
>>> history lesson, but not a technology lesson.
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>> To clarify, "the Google way" has two aspects worth considering:
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>> 1. Google does not use Office internally, the employees mostly use
>> GMail/Wave/Etherpad(deprecated)/Apps/Docs
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>> 2. Children must be taught METHODS of acquiring information
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>> Re the skills in (2), kids cannot be expected to memorise menu items; that
>> won't stay with them and likewise, they will not remember data through
>> rehearsal (e.g. history lessons). Kids must be taught how to search for
>> information, judge its validity, go through Wikipedia, contribute to it (peer
>> review), etc.
>>
>> People who don't evolve with the times will stay kids. It's shameful to raise
>> an infantile generation just so that some corporation keeps its revenue
>> going.
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>> "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in
>> school."
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>> --Albert Einstein
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> Since mass education was introduced, teachers have never been required
> to remember every fact themselves, or even how to deliver every fact;
> instead, they've had well writted, edited and presented textbooks to help
> them, along with other useful material. This is completely sensible,
> since some children will learn better from reading the book anyway.
> "Chalk & talk" has been deprecated for some time, yet in reality it
> can be very compelling if delivered well, so long as the talker is sure
> everyone is with them.
>
> Video delivery is much worse, because it has to be paced at the slowest
> possible learner, not just the slowest in the current room, so it's
> painfully painfully slow.
>
> But learning menus? It's completely pointless, a total waste of time.
> By the time kids leave school and get a job, things will have changed
> anyway. This is *training* not education. Training is useful for people
> who need it, as it were, now. Schoolchildren do not need training on the
> intricacies of Microsoft Excel - they don't need to know, and probably
> won't need to know, for years.
>
> If this approach had been taken when I was at school, I'd've been
> learning, err, how to use a particular make of electrical typewriter.
> Or maybe a particular brand of calculator. It's not education, it's
> training.
I guess you could argue that QUERTY training would be valuable to a student
(or use of a mouse as it appears to stay here, at least for another 5 years).
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