On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:03:50 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:34:10 -0700 (PDT), Vaughn Bode wrote:
>
>> On Jul 26, 9:27 am, the community of "Moshe Goldfarb", who are not
>> sponsored or supported in any way by Microsoft, its partners,
>> affiliates, or hangers on wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:16:54 -0700 (PDT), Vaughn Bode wrote:
>>>> On Jul 26, 6:47 am, Moshe Goldfarb <moshegoldf...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:06:50 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>> From: joachimk Mon Sep 30 10:53:23 1991
>>>
>>>>> 1991 ?
>>>
>>>> The scummy behaviour of Microsoft goes back a looooooooong way. You
>>>> must not know much about Microsoft. There are plenty of places to
>>>> read up on it.
>>>
>>> Who cares?
>>
>> Obviously not you. The joy in your posts about Gates raking in
>> billions, smothering Linux, with his shoddy products is evident.
>
> You got me all wrong dude.
> I don't like Microsoft and I *lived* through the Stac, DrDos etc
> fiascos.
>
> I'm just telling it like it is and the fact is most people don't care.
>
> Rattle enough closets and the skeletons will come falling out no matter
> what rich corporate person you happen to pick.
Yes? So? If more were made to pay for their illegal activity, there might
be less activity.
>
> And that's a fact.
>
>>> Do you think the 95+ percent of people using Windows give a hoot
>>> anymore than they give a hoot that General Electric is one of the
>>> world's worst polluters of the environment?
>>>
>>>> But Gates is a billionaire, so you will close your eyes to the trail
>>>> of destruction.
>>>
>>> And if you look at just about any other person like Gates, you will
>>> find that they made their money the same way.
>>
>> You are making excuses for Gates.
>
> No I'm not.
Yes, you are.
>
>
>>> Henry Ford for example....
>>>
>>> You don't become one of the world's richest people by being nice.
>>
>> That's what I was saying in the "Gates is a visionary" thread. And
>> here you are agreeing with me, will wonders never cease?
>
> Maybe if you actually read what I wrote you would have come to that
> conclusion eons ago.
So why do you think it is OK to let him off?
>
>
>>> That of course does not condone the behaviour, but you freetards seem
>>> to think Gates is the only person in history who has done this.
>>
>> Oh no! It takes a very special man to manoeuvre such a crappy product
>> into a world dominating empire.
>
> It's not a crappy product.
Ahah HAHahah AHha HAHah ahahH Ahah ahahaha ha Aha..
oh, you were serious?
Ahah HAHahah AHha HAHah ahahH Ahah ahahaha ha Aha..
>
> Linux *is* a crappy product, for the desktop.
No, it isn't. There may different OSen that work better for some people
and some uses. That doesn't make "Linux" a crappy product.
> It's a great server system
> and it has a fantastic future as an embedded OS but as a desktop product
> it's for geeks and techs mostly.
No, it isn't.
>
>>>>> Slow day in the SPAM department Roy Schestowitz?
>>>
>>>>> Are your masters cracking the whip again so you keep your output
>>>>> high quality low?
>>>
>>>> So let me get this straight ... unemployed amateur OS building
>>>> basement dwellers that get fed by their mommys have masters?
>>>
>>> Schestowitz doesn't eat.
>>> He doesn't have the time.
>>>
>>>> While at the same time a team of Windows goons spending an
>>>> extraordinary amount of time sifting through COLA, in support of a
>>>> multi-billion dollar international company, are not paid in any way
>>>> for their activity.
>>>
>>> Correct.
>>>
>>>> Have I got that right?
>>>
>>> Wrong as usual "Vaughn"......
>>
>> So you agreed with everything I wrote and then declared me wrong. You
>> really should not let DFS help you write your posts, he will just make
>> you look silly.
>
> It may come as a surprise to you but unlike the Linux clan who will back
> each others lies to the death, most of us "wintrolls" don't agree on
> everything.
No... you, Snit, Hadron, DFS.. you all mostly back up each other.
>
> I've gone on record since Vista was released that I don't like it nor
> have I any intention of using it. I've posted of moving to Mac if MS
> doesn't get it's act together.
>
> However, and this is important, Gates and his wife do a lot of good for
> the world.
.. making up for past sins (at least for Gates) ... and pushing Microsoft
software.
> He is a shrewd business person and of course his teachers were IBM and
> company.
> Yea, you know, the big Linux supporter.
>
> He studied them, learned their methods and improved upon them.
>
> If any of you spent any amount of time with people in this industry that
> make the decisions, and I have, you will immediately see a common factor
> in almost all of them.
>
> Drive, determination, a vision and focus that will not accept failure at
> any cost.
... any cost.
> If they do fail, they get right back on the horse and start over again
> and in their mind it wasn't a failure, it was a learning experience.
>
> I guarantee you that 5 minutes spent with Scott McNealy, Donald Trump,
> Gates, Philippe Kahn, Ballmer and others is all it takes to see these
> traits shine through.
How many companies run by those men were found to have acted illegaly?
Oh.. Gates and Ballmer. How many of those men are hated in their
industries? Oh.. Gates and Ballmer.
>
> I've personally met Kahn, Trump and Scott for reasonable periods of
> time, ie: more than 5 minutes :)
>
> I find Trump fascinating, although quirky. He doesn't like to shake
> hands for one.
> Can't blame him these days though.
>
> I've heard Gates in person, shook his hand but that's about it. I find
> him boring, but he does have the ideas flowing.
>
> Compare this to Linux community.
> The only person they have with that kind of vision is Shuttleworth.
Linux community or OSS community?
>
> Linus is smart, but let's face it the entire Linux phenom is really a
> fluke.
> A good fluke, but a fluke non the less. It wasn't designed to be
> marketed as far as I know.
A fluke? You mean like IBM deciding to use a non-existing OS for it's
5150?
>
> The rest of the community leaders for the most part are social outcasts.
Redmond, Allison and Young are outcasts?
> Take RMS for example.
> Please do....
Maybe you can do research and tell us when Gates started showering
regularly and stopped rocking in chairs.
--
Rick
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