Erik Funkenbusch <erik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:06:34 +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
>
>>> I didn't say it did. I said it was Microsoft's statements to ECMA.
>>>
>> So why would you admit you posted an irrelevant link to answer my
>> question?
>
> Because I was answering the question completely, something you fail to do.
>
You were dragging in irrelevancies. To me that sounds more like trying
to derail the thread.
>>> He's not a developer, he's a program manager. That means he's in charge of
>>> it.
>>
>> So, that makes a mailing list post an official patent grant? Sorry, but
>> legal matters *don't* work that way, and you damn well know it.
>
> Well, it's certainly evidence.
>
So you admit it is not enough to constitute patent license, then?
>>> "will be" doesn't mean "in the future" in this context. It' means
>>> "now and in the future". The statements submited to Ecma ware made in
>>> 2001. The statements about royaltee-free came later.
>>>
>> So where are the official patent grants then? The only official document
>> I've managed to find is the ECMA statement, which does *not* specify
>> royalty-free.
>
> It doesn't have to.
>
Indeed it doesn't. The minimum standard ECMA requires is merely
RAND. Microsoft complied with that.
*HOWEVER*, you fanbois keep insisting that Microsoft is going above and
beyond the minimum requirements and licensing C#/CLI patents RAND and
royalty-free.
So, for the umpteenth time: prove it.
>>> So Microsoft should give a royalty free patent grant to patents they
>>> don't have?
>>>
>> So if they don't have patents in C#/CLI, why would they need to file a
>> patent grant with ECMA? Why not file a disclaimer that they *don't* hold
>> any patents?
>
> Because ECMA requires it. Why did Sun publish such a document for ODF when
> they claim not to have any patents either? Because it's common practice.
Irrelevant. Stop trying to move the goalposts.
But for the record: Sun's statement is an unequivocal non-assertion of
patents. Where is the similar Microsoft statement? You still haven't
provided it.
Mart
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