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Re: Call for moderation and mediation: debian-live vs. debian-live-ng

[ And more time flies - sorry for the delay... ]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 07:48:29AM -0800, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>Agreed. But you don't necessarily need a neutral report (which requires
>a huge amount of mediation work and, crucially, good will on both sides
>to be written) to address that.
>The alternative approach is to publicly present, calmly but firmly, the
>*other* side of the story, which is currently quite hard to discern for
>people who are not on this list.  Once both sides of the story are
>clearly identifiable by our community we should just let people draw
>their own conclusions.
>To be more concrete: I find the email that Steve posted to this thread
>to be very clear, calm, and honest about how things went, as seen from
>the vmdebootstrap "side".  Posting that mail to -devel is probably the
>simplest act that we now need to be completely transparent with our
>community, before moving on.  But that mail is also probably quite
>personal for Steve, so I'd totally understand if he'd rather not do
>that, or not do that in that present form.

I'm happy enough if somebody wants to post *something*, but I'd rather
not have that exact wording posted in public right now. While I stand
by what I've said, it's hardly likely to improve the relationship with
Daniel to come out in public and say "we didn't like your stuff

Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@xxxxxxxxxx
"...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user'
 as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." -- Daniel Pead

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