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Re: Code of Conduct complaint about Linus's comments at DC14

On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:25:13AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 08:08:49AM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >       He was inviterd. He was also given the guidelines fro speakers,
> >which by his own admission he did not bother reading. Why waste time
> >with guidelines and code of conduct statements if we happily stand by
> >and say nothing when they are violated?

> I don't know what exactly was in the guidelines; either I can't find them or
> they aren't online. I do see an anti-harassment statement
> (http://debconf14.debconf.org/registration.xhtml#antiharassment), but I
> don't believe that Linus in any way violated that.

The code of conduct for DebConf is here:


As a DebConf organizer, I do not believe that Linus's comments (modulo the
coarse language at the beginning, which is not the subject of Ian's
complaint) constituted a violation of this CoC.  I think I told Ian as much
in person.

I understand that Ian is upset by Linus's comments, and by Debian's
providing Linus a soapbox from which to make them; and that this upset is
real, regardless of whether the CoC was violated.  Debian could make a
public statement disavowing Linus's comments, but that's the purview of the
DPL or the project-via-GR, not of the DebConf team.  And I've explained in
my other mail why I don't think it makes sense for the DebConf team to issue
a public statement about Linus's presence at DebConf.

So while I sympathize with Ian's view on Linus's conduct, I don't think I
can give him satisfaction in this.

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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