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Re: Call for moderation and mediation: debian-live vs. debian-live-ng

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:49:52PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> I do firmly believe that the project as a whole would benefit from
> engaging with conflict _once_ by releasing a public statement instead
> of sitting things out. A short, impartial, factual summary of events
> past and present from the project should be enough.

I very much agree.

(And with "public statement" I don't mean anything high profile such a
press release, a mailing list post on debian-devel in the appropriate
thread would be enough.)

By not posting anything of that sort, we're letting bystanders believe
that there has been some secret political play to shut down Debian-Live,
or other nasty things. Which is not the case. Specific Debian teams (CD,
installer, etc.) have simply applied their rightful freedom to choose a
different product for live image creations. Subsequently, Daniel decided
to shutdown Debian Live.

Note that the above does not mean that Daniel is wrong in all respects.
Specifically, I agree that choosing -ng as a suffix has been very rude.
But that specific act has already been both acknowledged and undone.

Shutting down Debian Live is *not* something that the Debian Project
decided or imposed onto Daniel. At this point it is an unilateral
decision on his part. I sympathize with the fact that he might be doing
that out of how he (badly) feels about this whole issue. But by not
speaking up on why the choices have been made, we are letting people
believe that our evil community unilaterally decided to shut down a
useful project by a fellow contributor.

> Or it would help establish a new baseline of publicly acknowledging
> issues. Yes, it would add more hay to the fire, but hay burns brightly
> by using up all its energy quickly. In the long term, it would show a
> practice of not hiding problems and engaging with them in a courteous,
> honest, brief, and definite manner.
> And I think we can all agree that that's A Good Thing.

Agreed too.

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