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Re: Gnote 0.3.1

On 2009-05-16, Tim Smith <reply_in_group@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In article <8663g2p6rq.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>  Mart van de Wege <mvdwege_public@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Only a risk if you are usig ASP.NET, ADO.NET or Windows Forms in your 
>> > applications.  
>> For someone who chides others on what he sees as mere assertions without
>> proof, you are remarkably reluctant to provide proof for your own
>> assertions.
>> In other words, prove it. Put up or shut up.
> The parts of Mono that might be under patents, other than the clones of 
> ASP.NET, ADO.NET, and Windows Forms are covered by the ECMA and ISO 
> standards.  All the patents necessary to implement those are covered by 
> a royalty-free RAND license.  This is no different than the other 
> patent-covered languages that are widely used on Linux systems.  Why 
> aren't you complaining about those?

    What would those be again?

    Is support for them a matter of practical necessity or do we go
quite out of our way to make Linux more or less dependent on them?

>> > None of those are used when using Mono to write Linux programs.
>> Weell, now I understand why you not merely didn't answer, but even
>> snipped my second point.
> You second so-called point was that new versions of .NET would come to 
> Windows before Linux.  So?  If someone is writing a Linux app, they are 
> going to use the version of .NET available on Linux--how would the 

    That's an interesting idea and something that is far more likely
to come about through something like KDE, GIMP, avidemux or mplayer.

> existence of a later version somehow make using the Linux version a 
> trojan?  Some Google apps and tools come out on Windows before they come 
> out on Linux--do you think they are trojans?  Java often comes out for 
> Solaris before Linux--is Java a trojan?

    Probably. Although Sun was always much less of a megalomaniac.

    Conflating Sun and Microsoft is clearly irrational and completely
ignores the history of the two companies, how they approach technology
and how they share technology with others.

> I dropped that "point" because it was completely senseless, and so there 
> seemed no reason to keep it in the discussion other than to embarrass 
> you, which would not have been nice.

    I remember when the idea of a "java desktop" was first floated. I also
remember that java based office suite. It was considerably before it's time
and went over like a lead ballon. It was crushed under it's own weight. 

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