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Re: Call for moderation and mediation: debian-live vs. debian-live-ng

2015-11-21 14:53 GMT+01:00 Andrew Shadura <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx>:

> And I fully understand this impression the situation has created in
> outsiders' minds, because they've got no context at all what has
> happened inside of Debian project. We need to give the context, I think.
> Because as it is now, we do indeed look bad. Some action is required, I
> believe.

I'm not exactly sure that there is any possible action or press note
that at the same time will provide the context, improve Debian image,
take care of Daniel's feelings, not make things worse, etc. I think
that we're trying to come out with something that makes everyone
happy, and that's simply not possible in this case. The different
communication requirements seem to be incompatible in my opinion.
Maybe we don't reallly know what we want, at the moment.

Anyway, I think that Joerg Jaspert is right when he says that the
project (as a whole) hasn't done anything wrong to him and there's
nothing to fix at the moment. In fact, an official note from the
project as a whole addressing this issue would create a dangerous
precedent that would force us to make equivalent public notes in many
other cases. If we wanted to go that way, which I doubt, I think it
should be something carefully studied and calculated. In fact, if
there was something to be done, I think it would better be done at a
team's level than a Debian Project's level.

What could be done eventually is to try to analyze how we reached this
situation, if it would have been possible to foresee and maybe prevent
it, and how we might be able to learn it for the future, but I'm not
sure if/how something like that could be handled at a project level.


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