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Re: Call for moderation and mediation: debian-live vs. debian-live-ng

On 21/11/15 14:53, Andrew Shadura wrote:
I don't know what you guys think about it, but having read a bunch of
comments to the ‘news’ articles on this topic in multiple languages I
see that mostly the ‘news’ present this as aggression of one of the
Debian teams to a leader of a project, and comments are mostly ‘Debian
people are such arseholes’.

And I fully understand this impression the situation has created in
outsiders' minds, because they've got no context at all what has
happened inside of Debian project. We need to give the context, I think.
Because as it is now, we do indeed look bad. Some action is required, I

The root cause for this discrepancy is some lack of transparency of the Debian project. So, in my opinion the only sane action that could fix this discrepancy is to work on the root cause, i.e. to make (not explicitly exempted parts of) this discussion on debian-private public, better sooner than later. At least I consider the discussion here on debian-private quite balanced, and I am convinced that it would definitely help to improve the public perception of how the Debian project dealt with the situation.

Almost 10 years ago the Debian project decided in a GR to publish all messages on debian-private after a period of 3 years[1]. For almost 10 years we fail to execute the GR. Maybe the recent events around debian-live could motivate someone of us to finally come up with a suitable work flow.


1. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPrivateDeclassification

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